Comments on: How can someone get in trouble for saying something racist or offensive with freedom of speech? http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:02:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jerry S http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech/comment-page-1#comment-3366 Jerry S Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:26:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech#comment-3366 free will, you are very young, even back in the 1970,s politicians got in trouble for making racist remarks or jokes. the freedom of speech only goes so far.<br><b>References : </b><br> free will, you are very young, even back in the 1970,s politicians
got in trouble for making racist remarks or jokes.
the freedom of speech only goes so far.
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]]> By: Drnkn. Lncln. http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech/comment-page-1#comment-3365 Drnkn. Lncln. Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:36:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech#comment-3365 We also have The freedom of the press. The freedom of assembly. The freedom to bare arms. Slowly we are losing the things our ForeFathers laid planned for us. The nativity scene isn't allowed to be displayed at the court house anymore and that's been several years ago. How many more things can anyone think of what has been taken. This practice has been going on for a long time.People just close their eyes. It's my business that I smoke. I enjoy a well deserved cigarette while having my beer. The freedom of assembly w/cigarette in hand is a no no. So you see,slowly we are losing our rights. Speeches are still allowed as long as you have a permit and without disturbing the peace or what ever it is they say. I'm tired.<br><b>References : </b><br> We also have The freedom of the press.
The freedom of assembly.
The freedom to bare arms.
Slowly we are losing the things our ForeFathers laid planned for us.
The nativity scene isn’t allowed to be displayed at the court house
anymore and that’s been several years ago.
How many more things can anyone think of what has been taken.
This practice has been going on for a long time.People just close their eyes.
It’s my business that I smoke.
I enjoy a well deserved cigarette while having my beer.
The freedom of assembly w/cigarette in hand is a no no.
So you see,slowly we are losing our rights.
Speeches are still allowed as long as you have a permit and without
disturbing the peace or what ever it is they say.
I’m tired.
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]]> By: Amy doesn't like Obama http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech/comment-page-1#comment-3364 Amy doesn't like Obama Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:18:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech#comment-3364 Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If its a problem for those who may interpret it as racist or whatever, then thats their problem.<br><b>References : </b><br> Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If its a problem for those who may interpret it as racist or whatever, then thats their problem.
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]]> By: IAAW http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech/comment-page-1#comment-3363 IAAW Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:40:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech#comment-3363 You are right. Why should anyone get in trouble for racist jokes, while no one gets in trouble for making sexist jokes and lies about Hillary Clinton and Sara Palin? I know why. Because there are a lot of hypocrites in America.<br><b>References : </b><br> You are right. Why should anyone get in trouble for racist jokes, while no one gets in trouble for making sexist jokes and lies about Hillary Clinton and Sara Palin?

I know why. Because there are a lot of hypocrites in America.
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]]> By: GJL http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech/comment-page-1#comment-3362 GJL Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:15:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech#comment-3362 Why can't you yell "Fire" in a crowded theater? Isn't that a denial of your freedom of speech? Think about the difference between speech and signaling. In signaling, you are using words to effect an emotional or instinctual reaction. Now if there was a fire in the theater, you definitely could yell "fire"; in fact you should. You are informing people of a real fact. If you yell fire when there is no fire, you are attempting to evoke a signal response for the sake of getting the response (probably for your own amusement.) Likewise when you use racist or hate speech, you are not attempting to inform or persuade, you are merely trying to get a signal response (anger, fear). Just like we prevent people from signaling inappropriately about non-existent fires, we try to stop people from signaling inappropriately about race, color, etc.<br><b>References : </b><br> Why can’t you yell "Fire" in a crowded theater? Isn’t that a denial of your freedom of speech?

Think about the difference between speech and signaling. In signaling, you are using words to effect an emotional or instinctual reaction. Now if there was a fire in the theater, you definitely could yell "fire"; in fact you should. You are informing people of a real fact. If you yell fire when there is no fire, you are attempting to evoke a signal response for the sake of getting the response (probably for your own amusement.)

Likewise when you use racist or hate speech, you are not attempting to inform or persuade, you are merely trying to get a signal response (anger, fear). Just like we prevent people from signaling inappropriately about non-existent fires, we try to stop people from signaling inappropriately about race, color, etc.
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]]> By: leopardlady http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech/comment-page-1#comment-3361 leopardlady Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:44:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech#comment-3361 Depends on what you mean by "gettin in trouble." Freedom of Speech doesn't mean I don't have a right to protest what you say. The makers of BrokeBack Mountain had a right to make that movie. And the protesters had a right to protest the movie. The Dixie Chicks had a right to say what they said. But their fans had a right to stop being fans & reject their music becuase of their disgust with what they Dixie Chicks said. There is a man who 'got in trouble' with me over his racist remarks, so he is not welcome in my house anymore. Are you going to tell me I am denying him Freedom of speech to not have him over? Freedom of Speech goes both ways.<br><b>References : </b><br> Depends on what you mean by "gettin in trouble."

Freedom of Speech doesn’t mean I don’t have a right to protest what you say.

The makers of BrokeBack Mountain had a right to make that movie. And the protesters had a right to protest the movie.

The Dixie Chicks had a right to say what they said. But their fans had a right to stop being fans & reject their music becuase of their disgust with what they Dixie Chicks said.

There is a man who ‘got in trouble’ with me over his racist remarks, so he is not welcome in my house anymore. Are you going to tell me I am denying him Freedom of speech to not have him over?

Freedom of Speech goes both ways.
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]]> By: tz51548 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech/comment-page-1#comment-3360 tz51548 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:01:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech#comment-3360 No freedoms are absolute. Also, just because some speech may not subject you to legal consequences, it does not mean that a given website can't establish its own standard for what will be tolerated.<br><b>References : </b><br> No freedoms are absolute. Also, just because some speech may not subject you to legal consequences, it does not mean that a given website can’t establish its own standard for what will be tolerated.
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]]> By: J.C. P http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech/comment-page-1#comment-3359 J.C. P Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:34:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech#comment-3359 The Constitution protects us from government intrusion onto our freedoms. Free speech is great but saying something stupid, unkind, hurtful or distasteful has negative consequences. <br><b>References : </b><br> The Constitution protects us from government intrusion onto our freedoms. Free speech is great but saying something stupid, unkind, hurtful or distasteful has negative consequences.

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]]> By: Justin http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech/comment-page-1#comment-3358 Justin Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:48:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech#comment-3358 Inciting hatred and violence is illegal. So is speech that causes panic. Look up Schenck v United States.<br><b>References : </b><br> Inciting hatred and violence is illegal.
So is speech that causes panic. Look up Schenck v United States.
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]]> By: Wooglet Voot http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech/comment-page-1#comment-3357 Wooglet Voot Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:32:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-speech/how-can-someone-get-in-trouble-for-saying-something-racist-or-offensive-with-freedom-of-speech#comment-3357 That is why the KKK was allowed to exist. But such speech is regulated, and the government or even property ownes can say you cannot say racist things. Even virtual property like YA.<br><b>References : </b><br> That is why the KKK was allowed to exist. But such speech is regulated, and the government or even property ownes can say you cannot say racist things. Even virtual property like YA.
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