Comments on: What do you consider to be "arms" that the bill of rights gives you freedom to own? http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:02:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Butterbar Bob http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own/comment-page-1#comment-3740 Butterbar Bob Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:02:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own#comment-3740 It's been fairly well established and accepted that it refers to arms for personal protection. This basically means firearms. The gun lobbies have no issue with the law banning automatic weapons. And no issue with laws banning indescriminate weapons like grenades, bombs, claymore mines, howitzers or atom bombs. In the state constitutions, like Michigans, it is more specific: Article I, Section 6. "Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state."<br><b>References : </b><br> It’s been fairly well established and accepted that it refers to arms for personal protection. This basically means firearms.

The gun lobbies have no issue with the law banning automatic weapons. And no issue with laws banning indescriminate weapons like grenades, bombs, claymore mines, howitzers or atom bombs.

In the state constitutions, like Michigans, it is more specific:
Article I, Section 6. "Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the
state."
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]]> By: kaiserray02 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own/comment-page-1#comment-3739 kaiserray02 Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:50:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own#comment-3739 Rifles, Shotguns, and Pistols should fall into the perameters of the legal definition of "Arms". Now you'll hear anti-gun groups talking about banning "assault rifles". Well technically any rifle despite it's outward appearence can be used as an "assault rifle". For crying out loud a ball bat can be come an assault weapon. The line should be drawn at laws being enforced and idiots not having firearms. I for example have several firearms in a variety of sizes, styles and calibers and not one has ever been used to commit a violent crime, or any crime for that matter. However you are correct in saying that no one needs a grenade launcher. It is in no way meant for hunting, target or sport shooting. As far as nukes go, that's just silly. The only way citizens would need those is if they needed to ensure that every citizen understands the premise of mutually assured destruction towards one another.<br><b>References : </b><br> Rifles, Shotguns, and Pistols should fall into the perameters of the legal definition of "Arms". Now you’ll hear anti-gun groups talking about banning "assault rifles". Well technically any rifle despite it’s outward appearence can be used as an "assault rifle". For crying out loud a ball bat can be come an assault weapon.
The line should be drawn at laws being enforced and idiots not having firearms.
I for example have several firearms in a variety of sizes, styles and calibers and not one has ever been used to commit a violent crime, or any crime for that matter. However you are correct in saying that no one needs a grenade launcher. It is in no way meant for hunting, target or sport shooting. As far as nukes go, that’s just silly. The only way citizens would need those is if they needed to ensure that every citizen understands the premise of mutually assured destruction towards one another.
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]]> By: bonedyourmum http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own/comment-page-1#comment-3738 bonedyourmum Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:37:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own#comment-3738 in australia they've banned automatic shotguns and we've never been able to use automatic rifles or smg's. so its, semi automatic and single shot rifles and shotguns, and clips are still allowed, but nothing as high powered as a 50 cal. and crazy stuff like that. Sure it would be a bit of fun if we could use anything we wanted to but think of how quickly ppl could be killed whith the weapons banned here. an automatic shotgun for example if fully loaded and the unloaded into a crowd a lot of ppl would die and in real life there are no superheroes faster than a speeding bullet.<br><b>References : </b><br> in australia they’ve banned automatic shotguns and we’ve never been able to use automatic rifles or smg’s. so its, semi automatic and single shot rifles and shotguns, and clips are still allowed, but nothing as high powered as a 50 cal. and crazy stuff like that. Sure it would be a bit of fun if we could use anything we wanted to but think of how quickly ppl could be killed whith the weapons banned here. an automatic shotgun for example if fully loaded and the unloaded into a crowd a lot of ppl would die and in real life there are no superheroes faster than a speeding bullet.
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]]> By: DevilDog http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own/comment-page-1#comment-3737 DevilDog Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:47:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own#comment-3737 Actually, a grenade launcher is not that difficult to obtain. An SKS has a greanade launcher but the munition is hard to find. The rifle is relatively cheap and durable though.<br><b>References : </b><br> Actually, a grenade launcher is not that difficult to obtain. An SKS has a greanade launcher but the munition is hard to find. The rifle is relatively cheap and durable though.
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]]> By: twostories http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own/comment-page-1#comment-3736 twostories Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:19:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own#comment-3736 Read the second amendment.......would you go to a gunfight with a knife? Would a poorly outfitted Militia stand a chance against a well armed Tyrants Army?<br><b>References : </b><br> Read the second amendment…….would you go to a gunfight with a knife? Would a poorly outfitted Militia stand a chance against a well armed Tyrants Army?
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]]> By: cvq3842 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own/comment-page-1#comment-3735 cvq3842 Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:45:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own#comment-3735 I would look to the history and debates surrounding the drafting and adoption of the amendment, and the meaning of the phrase "well-regulated militia," for clues.<br><b>References : </b><br> I would look to the history and debates surrounding the drafting and adoption of the amendment, and the meaning of the phrase "well-regulated militia," for clues.
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]]> By: KrazyKyngeKorny http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own/comment-page-1#comment-3734 KrazyKyngeKorny Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:03:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own#comment-3734 Weapons usable for self defense. The libs don't want us to own them because there is a hidden agenda to do a takeover like they did in USSR- like they did in Hitler's Germany. They don't want the people to be able to prevent such a takeover. The "elite" in Germany did not rebel against Hitler. The peasants did. Same in Russia. =<br><b>References : </b><br> Weapons usable for self defense. The libs don’t want us to own them because there is a hidden agenda to do a takeover like they did in USSR- like they did in Hitler’s Germany. They don’t want the people to be able to prevent such a takeover. The "elite" in Germany did not rebel against Hitler. The peasants did. Same in Russia.
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]]> By: one8swayze http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own/comment-page-1#comment-3733 one8swayze Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:58:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own#comment-3733 Anything that can be used to defend you, your family, and your property from those who wish to cause harm. As long as the thing being used poses no significant threat towards innocent others.<br><b>References : </b><br>makes sense to me. Anything that can be used to defend you, your family, and your property from those who wish to cause harm. As long as the thing being used poses no significant threat towards innocent others.
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makes sense to me.

]]> By: Shira I'nusyl http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own/comment-page-1#comment-3732 Shira I'nusyl Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:21:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own#comment-3732 I think it should be the right to BARE arms. I like wearing T-shirts. All joking aside, I think that people should have the right to have a handgun or something similar for self-defense, but the access to them should be carefully regulated so people who have a violent history can't get a gun.<br><b>References : </b><br> I think it should be the right to BARE arms. I like wearing T-shirts.

All joking aside, I think that people should have the right to have a handgun or something similar for self-defense, but the access to them should be carefully regulated so people who have a violent history can’t get a gun.
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]]> By: Rica 82 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own/comment-page-1#comment-3731 Rica 82 Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:08:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-rights/what-do-you-consider-to-be-arms-that-the-bill-of-rights-gives-you-freedom-to-own#comment-3731 The Right to Bear Arms - is the right to defend yourself. Some people can buy guns, as long as they are registered. They should be used to protect yourself in your home. You can't go around with your gun, in case something happens, but you can have it a home, in case of an intruder. You have the right to protect yourself and your family, but you can't go around with your weapon looking for a fight.<br><b>References : </b><br> The Right to Bear Arms – is the right to defend yourself. Some people can buy guns, as long as they are registered. They should be used to protect yourself in your home. You can’t go around with your gun, in case something happens, but you can have it a home, in case of an intruder. You have the right to protect yourself and your family, but you can’t go around with your weapon looking for a fight.
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