Comments on: Is this the Republican quote of the day: "When other countries don’t have freedom, their people starve"? http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:02:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Englishman in Kentucky http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve/comment-page-1#comment-3222 Englishman in Kentucky Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:08:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve#comment-3222 That question was so out there, someone has heard horror stories about the USSR, where forced labour was common practice and as it was customary for the State to feed these people they complained there was never enough to go around. Siberia was another situation, left out in the middle of nowhere to fend for themselves life was terribly difficult. What people should realise is that the USA is so far removed from USSR that it actually did happen but will never happen here.<br><b>References : </b><br> That question was so out there, someone has heard horror stories about the USSR, where forced labour was common practice and as it was customary for the State to feed these people they complained there was never enough to go around. Siberia was another situation, left out in the middle of nowhere to fend for themselves life was terribly difficult.

What people should realise is that the USA is so far removed from USSR that it actually did happen but will never happen here.
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]]> By: vertical and dangerous http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve/comment-page-1#comment-3221 vertical and dangerous Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:53:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve#comment-3221 Yes, America is not perfect! We never claimed to be, but the America began by the Founding Fathers had a better start on the road to freedom and prosperity than any nation before or since! What we have now is a country that has: defended it's sovernty, fought a Civil War, experienced 'Manifest Destiny', the cultural Challenge of massive emigration, and (in the last 80 years) an assault from an established political party to grow the Federal Government far beyond anything the Framers would have allowed! As you mock another contributor's remark, you ignore a simple truth. Without freedom people DO starve! They starve physically, socially, and emotionally. An example, the former Soviet Union. As for your examples of challenges to your freedoms, aren't these (in large part) the result of a bloated central government? The reason for the Bill of Rights is due to a serious 'Distrust' of 'centralized power' by the Founding Fathers. They believed that the power of government should rest with the people and in the States, not in Washington! Since you fail to see the hypocrisy of your post, I shall point it out to you. The main purveyors of not just big, but massive centralized government is the Democratic Party! And no Democratic Administration has ever grown government as quickly as the present administration! If you want to expose myths, look to the Obama regime, it is developing quite a portfolio! Laugh while you can, soon your laughs will turn to tears when you realize that you laughed as your freedoms were stripped from you and your fellow Americans! God Bless and Save America!<br><b>References : </b><br> Yes, America is not perfect!

We never claimed to be, but the America began by the Founding Fathers had a better start on the road to freedom and prosperity than any nation before or since!

What we have now is a country that has: defended it’s sovernty, fought a Civil War, experienced ‘Manifest Destiny’, the cultural Challenge of massive emigration, and (in the last 80 years) an assault from an established political party to grow the Federal Government far beyond anything the Framers would have allowed!

As you mock another contributor’s remark, you ignore a simple truth.

Without freedom people DO starve! They starve physically, socially, and emotionally. An example, the former Soviet Union.

As for your examples of challenges to your freedoms, aren’t these (in large part) the result of a bloated central government?

The reason for the Bill of Rights is due to a serious ‘Distrust’ of ‘centralized power’ by the Founding Fathers. They believed that the power of government should rest with the people and in the States, not in Washington!

Since you fail to see the hypocrisy of your post, I shall point it out to you.

The main purveyors of not just big, but massive centralized government is the Democratic Party!

And no Democratic Administration has ever grown government as quickly as the present administration!

If you want to expose myths, look to the Obama regime, it is developing quite a portfolio!

Laugh while you can, soon your laughs will turn to tears when you realize that you laughed as your freedoms were stripped from you and your fellow Americans!

God Bless and Save America!
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]]> By: I'mTheDecider http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve/comment-page-1#comment-3220 I'mTheDecider Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:12:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve#comment-3220 The South is free and #1 in Obesity in the Nation.Go figure.<br><b>References : </b><br> The South is free and #1 in Obesity in the Nation.Go figure.
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]]> By: wadesxfile@yahoo.com http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve/comment-page-1#comment-3219 wadesxfile@yahoo.com Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:31:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve#comment-3219 freedom , liberty , license These nouns refer to the power to act, speak, or think without externally imposed restraints. Freedom is the most general term: "In giving freedom to the slave,free from political tyrants and dictators, we assure freedom to the free" (Abraham Lincoln). Liberty stresses the power of free choice: "liberty, perfect liberty, to think, feel, do just as one pleases" (William Hazlitt). Political license sometimes denotes deliberate deviation from normally applicable rules or practices to achieve a desired effect: poetic license. Frequently, though, it denotes undue freedom: "the intolerable license with which the newspapers break . . . the rules of decorum" (Edmund Burke). Also to choose good a lawyer,or where you work.The federal agents and how they are used are a by product of a large government. This is what makes America more of a free Nation : "Armed people are free. No state can control those who have the machinery and the will to resist, no mob can take their liberty and property. And no 220-pound thug can threaten the well-being or dignity of a 110-pound woman who has two pounds of iron to even things out … People who object to weapons aren't abolishing violence, they're begging for rule by brute force, when the biggest, strongest animals among men were always automatically right. Guns ended that, and a social democracy is a hollow farce without an armed populace to make it work." -- L. Neil Smith (from The Probability Broach) We are the most free society on earth.But that appears to be changing to a socialist order in which we will have very few freedoms and most likely be ruled by a tyrant dictator.<br><b>References : </b><br>My Reality freedom , liberty , license

These nouns refer to the power to act, speak, or think without externally imposed restraints. Freedom is the most general term: "In giving freedom to the slave,free from political tyrants and dictators, we assure freedom to the free" (Abraham Lincoln). Liberty stresses the power of free choice: "liberty, perfect liberty, to think, feel, do just as one pleases" (William Hazlitt). Political license sometimes denotes deliberate deviation from normally applicable rules or practices to achieve a desired effect: poetic license. Frequently, though, it denotes undue freedom: "the intolerable license with which the newspapers break . . . the rules of decorum" (Edmund Burke).
Also to choose good a lawyer,or where you work.The federal agents and how they are used are a by product of a large government.

This is what makes America more of a free Nation :
"Armed people are free. No state can control those who have the machinery and the will to resist, no mob can take their liberty and property. And no 220-pound thug can threaten the well-being or dignity of a 110-pound woman who has two pounds of iron to even things out … People who object to weapons aren’t abolishing violence, they’re begging for rule by brute force, when the biggest, strongest animals among men were always automatically right. Guns ended that, and a social democracy is a hollow farce without an armed populace to make it work." — L. Neil Smith (from The Probability Broach)
We are the most free society on earth.But that appears to be changing to a socialist order in which we will have very few freedoms and most likely be ruled by a tyrant dictator.
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]]> By: mayna_smo_mry http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve/comment-page-1#comment-3218 mayna_smo_mry Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:49:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve#comment-3218 oh so america wasN;t a free country. My I am so surprised you stayed in it so long.as for lawyers sure there are greedy lawyers but you know there are many that are not so greedy either. I have had some good ones and bad ones . ones that were over paid and ones that were reasonable. you don:t have to go to one you think is too greedy. as for federal agents I never had a problem with them. and if you don:t know how much freedom we had you should visit other countries then you would know. they do not have the freedom to watch what they want on tv; it is control by the government. newspapers are controlled by the government. religion is controlled by the government. business is controlled by the government. now I cannot say that. we were free until this election and it seems this kenyan wants the same kind of government for us. he is wanting to control the internet, he is wanting freedom of speech squashed, no guns no pocket knives, he controls msnbc or rather they let him control them, he wants control over all the industries. yep this is barry. change. yes we can. and before now it was easy to get out of poverty if you wanted to be ready to work hard. not now. barry will tax you to death if you make any money. I guess this is the way you want america since you were so disappointed about how it was before barry. you must be very happy now. good for you. I like to see happy people.<br><b>References : </b><br> oh so america wasN;t a free country. My I am so surprised you stayed in it so long.as for lawyers sure there are greedy lawyers but you know there are many that are not so greedy either. I have had some good ones and bad ones . ones that were over paid and ones that were reasonable. you don:t have to go to one you think is too greedy. as for federal agents I never had a problem with them.
and if you don:t know how much freedom we had you should visit other countries then you would know.
they do not have the freedom to watch what they want on tv; it is control by the government. newspapers are controlled by the government. religion is controlled by the government. business is controlled by the government. now I cannot say that. we were free until this election and it seems this kenyan wants the same kind of government for us.
he is wanting to control the internet, he is wanting freedom of speech squashed, no guns no pocket knives, he controls msnbc or rather they let him control them, he wants control over all the industries. yep this is barry. change. yes we can.
and before now it was easy to get out of poverty if you wanted to be ready to work hard. not now. barry will tax you to death if you make any money.
I guess this is the way you want america since you were so disappointed about how it was before barry. you must be very happy now. good for you. I like to see happy people.
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]]> By: Patrick E http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve/comment-page-1#comment-3217 Patrick E Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:32:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve#comment-3217 Let's take your sub-questions one at a time I'm free to hire a lawyer that I believe in and that will represent me in court appropriately. I'm free from federal agents using my home for their barracks. I AM free of corporate tyranny. I am free to choose which companies I do business with.<br><b>References : </b><br> Let’s take your sub-questions one at a time
I’m free to hire a lawyer that I believe in and that will represent me in court appropriately.

I’m free from federal agents using my home for their barracks.

I AM free of corporate tyranny. I am free to choose which companies I do business with.
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]]> By: Above America http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve/comment-page-1#comment-3216 Above America Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:18:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve#comment-3216 Actually what that person said was true. You have to be retarded if you do not know why we had somalia. In fact Rwanda not only a Tutsi and Batutsi but their was genocide over food and who the government allowed to have it. Clearly you remember food was not allowed to get to Jews by the Germans. So if I went on it would become pointless to prove that like the rest of you democrats edumacation and knowing who you are voting for is not high on your priority list.<br><b>References : </b><br> Actually what that person said was true. You have to be retarded if you do not know why we had somalia. In fact Rwanda not only a Tutsi and Batutsi but their was genocide over food and who the government allowed to have it. Clearly you remember food was not allowed to get to Jews by the Germans.

So if I went on it would become pointless to prove that like the rest of you democrats edumacation and knowing who you are voting for is not high on your priority list.
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]]> By: imnoangel512 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve/comment-page-1#comment-3215 imnoangel512 Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:04:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve#comment-3215 "When other countries don't have freedom, their people starve"? In a way this is a true statement. Look at the countries where the government controls every aspect of people' lives including food, people do starve. My mother in law who was alive during Hitler's reign remembers eating spoiled potatoes for several meals because Hitler's army would come into the villages, cities and towns and take what little food they had to feed the soldiers. Did you know that some of the food that is shipped to places like Africa for starving people is confiscated by its government? When you are not in a free nation you are at the mercy of the government and its leaders. "It is easy to get out of poverty in America compared to China, where it could take 10 generations!" This one is also true. Poor people in China stay poor because they don't have any opportunity for a better life unless they are lucky enough to move to some place like america. Then again if they have no conscience then they can make money by joining a criminal organization over there to get money.<br><b>References : </b><br>Reality "When other countries don’t have freedom, their people starve"?
In a way this is a true statement. Look at the countries where the government controls every aspect of people’ lives including food, people do starve. My mother in law who was alive during Hitler’s reign remembers eating spoiled potatoes for several meals because Hitler’s army would come into the villages, cities and towns and take what little food they had to feed the soldiers. Did you know that some of the food that is shipped to places like Africa for starving people is confiscated by its government? When you are not in a free nation you are at the mercy of the government and its leaders.

"It is easy to get out of poverty in America compared to China, where it could take 10 generations!"
This one is also true. Poor people in China stay poor because they don’t have any opportunity for a better life unless they are lucky enough to move to some place like america. Then again if they have no conscience then they can make money by joining a criminal organization over there to get money.
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]]> By: carolinatinpan http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve/comment-page-1#comment-3214 carolinatinpan Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:16:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve#comment-3214 We are not truely free. Americans give the power over them to the government. Yet with our problems the truth is we are more free. And the starving thing is basicly true. Look at North Korea.Pol Pot starved millions. Chinese have starved by the millions.USSR had problems feeding its people. Communism is a flawed concept. There is no reason for exceptionalism. People without a dream starve.<br><b>References : </b><br> We are not truely free. Americans give the power over them to the government. Yet with our problems the truth is we are more free. And the starving thing is basicly true. Look at North Korea.Pol Pot starved millions. Chinese have starved by the millions.USSR had problems feeding its people. Communism is a flawed concept. There is no reason for exceptionalism. People without a dream starve.
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]]> By: badmotherrucker http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve/comment-page-1#comment-3213 badmotherrucker Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:42:59 +0000 http://www.svitakfreedomride.com/freedom-quote/is-this-the-republican-quote-of-the-day-when-other-countries-dont-have-freedom-their-people-starve#comment-3213 Just over the weekend I saw a commercial with some kid hearing a sonic boom from military jets. He asked the pedophile he was with what the sound was, and pedo answered that's the sound of freedom.<br><b>References : </b><br> Just over the weekend I saw a commercial with some kid hearing a sonic boom from military jets. He asked the pedophile he was with what the sound was, and pedo answered that’s the sound of freedom.
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