Has America any value for life and freedom?
Posted on October 25th, 2009 by admin
I have to ask this after seeing on youtube the student in Florida University who was manhanled and tasered by campus police after asking awkward questions at a presidental candidate (kerry) campaign meeting. The student asked questions about vote fixing in the last election and about Bush’s association with the society skull and cross bones. As the young man was wrestled to the ground and screamed in agony as he was tasered Kerry continued to answer questions. No one tried to help him and the news men seemd quite light hearted when reporting this violent and frightening incident?
I had a good look at the video a number of times. I first thought it was set up, a prank, but then watched several news reports. For those that think the tasering is irrelivant I totally disagree. This is a voilation of human rights and an act of torture. One student, 6 police officers, he was handcuffed on the floor and they repeatedly taserd him. If this was in Africa or South America people would be screaming about militant regimes torturing its citizens in public. The fact that some people on this site find the tasering acceptable under the circumstances demonstrates how strongly conditioned people are to accepting the voice of authority, no matter what it says.
Theres no such thing as freedom, there are allways restrictions on what you can do, its just tat there more restrictions in certain countries tat others.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Theres no such thing as freedom, there are allways restrictions on what you can do, its just tat there more restrictions in certain countries tat others.
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October 26th, 2009 at 12:29 am
America will give you all the freedom you want, just so long as you follow the rules and not upset the apple cart. A new communist country in the making??
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October 26th, 2009 at 1:17 am
I don’t think he should have been tasered unless he was threatening the safety of the officers. Sometimes you just have to get your point across to some knuckle heads by any means necessary. If he had obeyed them in the first place he wouldn’t have been tasered. You have to have gone through police academy to know these things I guess.
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October 26th, 2009 at 1:39 am
no one helped him because they are frightened,we dont have free speech.
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October 26th, 2009 at 2:19 am
Hi
I have to ask this what freedom of speech in your country led the national guard to shoot students making a peaceful demonstration agents the Vietnam war in the 1960’s
So the answer is NO
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October 26th, 2009 at 2:50 am
If you watched the entire video, you will notice the guy didn’t listen when told to step down, he continued to act up even after leaving the mic, and even after being tasered. His time was up, as with anyone in Kerry’s position, his time is limited and each person is allowed a set amount to time to ask questions. I believe he should have planned his questions better if he really wanted to ask them, and not behaved like a spoiled grade school student. Would you have wanted to be charged with interfering with an arrest or impeding justice for him?
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October 26th, 2009 at 3:22 am
saw it too and freaked out – thats a total outrage. idiots were making light of it and just focusing on the tasering.
the tasering is not the issue – everyone knows if you resist arrest youre asking for it.
the real issue is the fact that he was left on the mic with police standing right beside him and was allowed to ask any number of questions ridiculous or not until oh whats this – he asks about a secret society and THEN he’s getting arrested. thats funny – question about votes, no problem. question about impeachment, no problem. question about supposed secret society, mic gets cut… arrested.
not to mention about the right to ask a civil question at a public forum.
so we can see the cause of all this was a question about a secret society which as far as i know (im not actually a conspiracy freak believe it or not) is based around a university fraternity of which kerry and bush were members in the same years (emmm slight conflict of interest issue i think)…. sounds like a perfectly reasonable question to me.
oh and the charge – which the cops could only think of after he was out of the hall and down the stairs – inciting a riot. yup.
ps to those saying he was arrogant and ignorant in his manner, so is howard stern and i dont see him getting tasered after years on public radio. not being to someones liking is not an arrestable offence.
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October 26th, 2009 at 3:34 am
I honestly feel that he was trying to provoke a response, not get a real answer to his question. I have wanted to know the same answer to the question that he asked, but he was arrogant and disrespectful. Yes, the question was awkward, but he could have asked it like a human being, and chose not to. He could have let the other student finish asking his question instead of barging in with his own agenda.
This guy has made it a hobby to pull pranks and post them online, and well now the joke is on him.
Now, I don’t think he should have been tasered, especially after he begged for them not to do it, but he was warned. For me, it’s nothing to do with life and freedom, and everything to do with the choices we make as individuals. He showed respect for no one there (as evident by everyone clapping as he was being escorted out), so in my world he acted like an idiot and got what he paid for.
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October 26th, 2009 at 3:42 am
But it sure was funny. The guy does stuff like that all the time. He just got surprised this time. They made him do the chicken. If you listen to the tape Kerry says " don’t do that I’ll answer his question. let him ask his question. Kerry told reporters he thought the police were hurting the man but at the time didn’t know they tased him. Kerry said the police over reacted and can’t understand why after the man was on the floor and handcuffed he was tased.
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October 26th, 2009 at 4:14 am
A bit overly dramatic, aren’t we?
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October 26th, 2009 at 4:37 am
One wonders what’s going on in Guantanamo if this is what happens to ordinary Americans.
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October 26th, 2009 at 4:44 am
Value for Life?, unfortunate not.
Freedom?, again unfortunate the price is Life?.
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October 26th, 2009 at 5:25 am
You will find this happens in every country in the world. Only the Americans or the British are "free" enough to show it on TV.
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October 26th, 2009 at 6:14 am
Yes, mainly its own.
lol. JB above. That would NEVER happen in the UK. Tazers are not used on school children in my country thank you.
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October 26th, 2009 at 6:22 am
No. If america had value for life and freedom they would never have went to war in Iraq. Further to that if they had value for life and freedom they would write off the debt in Africa-If they had value for life and freedom there would never have been debt in the first place. If they had value for life and freedom they would do a lot more to help out where recycling and carbon footprints are concerned. America is not a country where you can freely express what you are thinking-I believe its called freedom of speach. America is a country consumed by money and power.
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October 26th, 2009 at 6:37 am
Purple, I don’t know if this is true or not, but there is rumor that this person was really just a paid "plant" by one of the political parties … it was his role to gather attention and get the media to focus on how " wayward" questions are handled. It’s being billed as just more political posturing. Is
that true? I do not know. But.. look at that tape again. He does seem somewhat rehearsed . Look where he was seated. Check the immediate camera angle.
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October 26th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Makes you wonder how he would’ve been treated if they weren’t aware of the cameras!
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October 26th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Meyer has a history of having videos made of him doing off the wall stuff & posting it on his web page. What we all saw was another of his video performances. He did not expect to be arrested, nor did he expect to be tasered while resisting arrest, which IS what he did. He was not zapped after he was cuffed. And according to the officers, once outside camera range, he was immediately respectful & cooperative.
Andrew Meyer got more than he bargained for, but received exactly what his actions were asking for. Frankly, if he had jerked that microphone out of my hand while I was speaking, my first impulse would have been to deck him.
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October 26th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Whether he was disrespectful or had rehearsed his disrepect or whatever, at the end of the day there was absolutely no need to tazer the guy.
He was handcuffed and on the floor so why did they do it.
I think America is an awful country now, its completely lost respect in the eyes of the world, and to be honest it’s human rights stink
Kim S
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October 26th, 2009 at 7:46 am
not anymore
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