Freedom Ride

Does State violence inflicted on the freedom and Democracy protesters in the Middle East show exactly why Americans need to preserve their Constitutional RIGHT to keep and bear arms?

I believe, when we look at the actions of the regimes in the middle east, and how the police are shooting women, children and well, indiscriminately at anyone who protests, is absolute proof of why the 2nd amendment was enacted in the first place.

Am I wrong?

If I am wrong in my interpretation of the 2nd amendment, please feel free to correct me.

Good question.

I would have to agree with you, State violence, or the threat of it, against the People is absolutely the reason, at least one reason, for the 2nd amendment.
There are or were rather, other reasons of course when it was written, such as the United States not having a fully functioning armed forces at the time, but in today’s World, it would serve as a deterrent or one form of insurance to a People who find themselves on the receiving end of State violence, such as we are seeing in the Middle East today.

Americans should take note.

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What has happened to be able to buy guns in new jersey or even just fireworks why have everything bin outlawed by old ugly bald di Cks what does it even feel like to live in a state now where you could actually do things Its been so long since I lived in pa and I love pennsylvania but what happened to the constitution

Those in the government here believe that to be able to exercise your 2nd amendment right you need to ask permission to see if your status as an American is good enough. God forbid you want to get a concealed carry permit to protect yourself from crime, then you have to prove that you have an exceptional reason to believe your life is in serious and imminent danger. That is so hard to do that the state doesn’t even have an actual form for it because they will never agree that you can protect yourself. I guess we should follow cops around all day in case something happens so they can protect us.

I don’t think we should vote them out, I say all of the people who love the constitution should just move and let them wallow in their mess. Eventually it will be rampant with section 8 housing and welfare checks to the point that there is nobody to pay for it anymore. Then the crime wave starts and the anti gun groups won’t have enough cops to protect them, and no citizens to stand up for themselves of one another. Then I say we blockade the the north and demo the bridges across the Delaware river. At least I live in south jersey where the farmland is.
Yeah, I know how you feel….. that was my rant.

Universal Health Care – to protect access to health care for all Americans
Water and Food Safety regulations – protecting the public from dangerous consumption.
Work place safety regulations – protecting workers from unsafe working conditions
Consumer protection laws – protecting consumers from unsafe products, and predatory business practice.
Drug regulations – limiting access to drugs and abuse of drugs to protect our society
Fair doctrine – requiring news broadcasters to base their reports on facts, not lies. Democracy is only as good, as a well informed public.
Gun regulations – To limit and criminalize the possession of fire arms by the insane, irresponsible, and criminal minds.
Taxes – to fund our eduction, security, safety, and defense. And help those in need of help.

Liberals, please do the honors and state what freedom is, and list how republicans want to limit real freedom, and not unbridled greed.

Universal Health Care — The US is the last refuge on Earth for people who need the best care. They even come here from Canada.

Drug Regulations — Why penalize people for what drugs they want to take? You’re causing crime and deficits here, and a civil war in Mexico.

Gun Regulations — Keeping guns out of the hands of the insane is a good idea. Who do you define as irresponsible? You CAN’T keep the guns away from the criminals.

Taxes — Charge too little in taxes, and you destroy the government. Charge too much in taxes, and you destroy society. We just have a friendly dispute as to the right amount.

I always do my taxes with Turbo Tax freedom edition but when I went to do my state taxes it said that my state hadn’t been released yet. It gave me a web address to release dates but the address didn’t work and I can’t find any answers on their website. So does anyone know were I can get the info about state tax release dates for Turbo Tax freedom edition?

Freedom Edition or otherwise, here’s the link to state form availability on TT.

Monthly amount paid by govt. to Assam (India)

2000 crores.

I’m no conservative but I fail to see why people are justifying the actions of Julien Assange in the name of freedom of speech.

The wikileak disclosures are not criticism of government or someone expressing their political viewpoint. They are disclosing state secrets. If my grandfather publicly announced the plans for D-Day in early 1944 would this be acceptable in the name of freedom of speech?

He didn’t steal the info for starters….he just distributed it.

But I think both sides have a point. 1) the government needs to be more transparent and them keeping secrets is keeping a so-called democracy in the dark 2) there is a line on what really needs to stay secret and so far Assange hasn’t tried to define it

Do you think what he has posted is really as sensitive as the plans for D-day? I would say no, up until his last leak, which may have crossed a line.

In any case…it’s debatable. It’s not a "he’s a hero" or "he’s a traitor" thing. People that are that lopsided are always wrong.

just something i heard so… ya
Dont think about this too hard, its a simple question…

First part, no.

Second part, yes.

You said not to think too hard. LOL

like how much the state should interfere to ensure equal outcome for all.

Well I just had two of my posts reported. That tells you something about what feminists think about free speech.

But that’s nothing compared to the abuse they have given other people who speak out against feminism e.g. Erin Pizzey, the woman who started battered women’s shelters in the UK (constant harassment + dog killed) or Neil Lyndon (career assasination). They have even engaged in bomb threats to silence people who dare question feminism (http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/304/kelly.pdf this doc is a pdf).

Feminists have done everything they can to silence dissent, yet they feel horribly insulted when they get compared to those other haters of free speech, the nazis.

The F.O.I.A. itself may apply but I usually hear it mentioned with regard to the federal government.

Many states have the same type of act, often called a "sunshine law"

http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/foiamap.html

Libertarianism was originally a leftist movement, with an anarcho-communist as the founder, but these days it’s called left-libertarianism or libertarian socialism in order to distinguish itself from the capitalist movement.

You work hard at putting people in categories . Today’s names are totally twisted . A liberal is anti-liberal , progressive means the opposite . The parties and names have little meaning anymore .

I believe in freedom from government , neither right or left wing oppression is a good thing .